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Ulverston Bringing Communities Together Meeting 20 th of March 2019

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The next meeting of UBCT will be held on the 20 th of March at Ulverston Library 2019 between 6.30 pm and 8 pm  
Guest Speaker Ged Pickersgill of "The Well" in Barrow, will talk about the work of this organisation which was set up to help those recovering from Drug and Alcohol abuse.


 Meeting on Wednesday 20th March 2019
Ulverston Library (6.30 – 8 pm)

        1. Welcome By Chairman
        2.  Introductions / Sign in on arrival
                                  3.     Apologies
                                   4.  Ged Pickersgill from The Well - An organisation based in Barrow
                                         tackling drink and drug abuse. Many of those involved with the running
                                         of the organisation have themselves been affected by drink or drugs, and
                                         having turned their lives around, now turn their energies into educating
                                         and helping others.
                                   5.   Minutes / Actions from previous minutes
                                   6.    Financial Update
                                   7.    Any Reports     -            Ulverston Emergency Planning Group
                                   8.     A. O. B.
                                   9.     Date of next meeting  -  provisionally 15th May 2019
                      Pat Appleton - Secretary



           Our last meeting was held on January 16th  2019 in the Ulverston Library, this new venue
           gives us more room - and a table to put my bits and pieces on, as well as saving the fire personnel all the hassle of getting us more chairs !! It was decided to re-book the library for our March meeting. 
          Chairman Cllr. Dave Webster welcomed 11 attendees .
          Apologies were received from Nick Knibbs, Barbara Postlethwaite, PCSO Howard Firth, Wally Gardiner, Cllr. Helen Irving and George Appleton.
          Previous Minutes were accepted as correct – proposed Charles Rogers, seconded John Thomason.
          Updates / Actions from Previous minutes/
          Pat said the self help NCCZ had been completed on Birkett Drive, thanks also went to resident Karen Land who had taken a lead in helping set up the scheme – we hope this will give those residents the confidence to say no to Cold Callers.
          Some interest was shown for setting up a NCCZ scheme on Garden Tce. and Sands Close.
          PCSO Howard Firth was unable to attend our January meeting, Pat will try and liaise with Howard to see if Matthew Barker, the young man from Grange will help us set up a Facebook page for N/Watch in the S. Lakes area. Matt has been very active where he lives in getting neighbours to sign up to the Cumbria Community Messaging Service, as well as distributing N/Watch stickers and putting a N/Watch street sign up.
          No work being done on N/Watch signs here in Ulverston until weather improves – Pat noticed a new N/Watch street sign had been put up on the Savoy Gardens  (presume by the local residents) which is  very heartening, and shows there is still some interest out there, so nice to know we're not irrelevant.
          Bob reported that the next meeting of the Ulverston Emergency Planning group was 24th January 2019 in the council office. He gave a general discussion to explain what the group were doing.
          Charles has done a gauge chart and collected data around Dragley Beck (notorious for flooding in heavy rainfall and high tides) he was now able to predict what the level of water was likely to be, coupled with weather information received via the Environment Agency.
          It was reported that Cumbria Constabulary and Council members have had an informal chat about the cost of installing CCTV in Ulverston.
          Problems with pot holes, trees, and hedgerows often get brought up at meetings, but Dave said these can be reported by going on to the Cumbria County Council website.
          Financial Update 
          Charles reported finances were looking healthy with a balance in the bank £736. 59p. We also hold £8 belonging to the Police.
          A O B
           I understand PCSO Paul Harris is now operating from Barrow

          County Lines
          There had been a lot of reporting in the local paper recently concerning a major police crackdown “Operation Horizon” covering drug raids and County Lines.
          Drug dealers and couriers were travelling into Cumbria from areas such as Manchester, Liverpool and as far away as London. These drug gangs tend to exploit “vulnerable” people in their efforts to supply drugs to Barrow and S. Lakes.
          Our Chairman Dave also became our guest speaker after the business side of the meeting had been completed. When I first asked Dave if he would talk about his time as a “traffic cop”with Cumbria Police, little did I know he would have quite a tale to tell having joined the police in 1979 with 30 yrs service.
          He told us those early years in the 80's were spent patrolling the streets of Barrow where he served 2 years probation – Having served his probation he became a full officer covering  Ormsgill and Hawcoat, as well as Walney.
          His police career saw him pack his bag to Liverpool, where he along with two coaches carrying 100 police officers became involved in the Toxteth riots, where there was some bad feeling towards the police, so people were hurling abuse. However, walking passed a fish & chip shop, people noticed their police helmets were different, and when they realised some of the police were from Cumbria, they were made welcome. They would work 3-4 days at a time.
          He later became involved in the Tactical Support Group Unit, which included safety checks for royal visits, he also recalls the police patrols for political figures like Willie Whitelaw and Jim Callaghan, who often stayed at his daughters Cumbrian home while he was Prime Minister.
          Never a dull moment, policing then took him to Whitehaven at the height of the miners' strike
          to deal with “pickets” outside Haig pit, which turned out to be just ONE picket on duty, so the police were taken to sit in a hall and took it in turns! Haig pit was closing anyway, so Dave then got sent to Maryport, because they had mines and a “coal wash” - the police had to stay there, but then that also closed.
          The next move was to E. Lancs/Nottingham and Chesterfield, all the police slept on bunk beds for 12 months – some also went to Orgreave, but Dave didn't go there.
          They did at least get weekends at home, and were mainly only required to cover the start and finish of shifts. The police used a hired van so not easily identified, but there were casualties i.e. one officer was injured and five knocked unconscious.
          Appleby Fair was interesting – When they went to investigate reports of a horse loose on the A66, they found a horse & trap racing down the road!
          He became part of a Motorcycle Squad, which covered various jobs including VIP escorts,  but never the Queen!
          Before he joined the police he was a trained  mechanic, so started doing maintenance, he would strip down vehicles and look for any defects  or causes of accidents – that became a full time role -Dave was stationed in Ulverston and another guy at Penrith. This job could take him from one end of the county to another – on the last day of this job he was called to a collision investigation which lasted all day – on arriving back to Ulverston, another call took him to an accident at Whitehaven, and there were various other jobs that day – consequently the following day he suffered a heart attack, which put an end to his traffic days, and he wasn't allowed out on patrol . They wouldn't retire him on ill health, so he then became involved in training.
          He remembers the aftermath of Lockerbie and the various “items”  found in the hedgerows and elsewhere.  He said there were never two days alike and he absolutely loved the job.
          I think Dave has a lot more interesting tales to tell of his life, and we look forward to the next chapter, so thank you Dave, I never expected your police career to take us in so many directions.
          The meeting closed just after 8 pm and the next meeting was March 20th 2019 in the Ulverston library.
          Pat – Secretary

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